By adamg on Wed., 11/13/2013 - 7:37 am
The Herald reports the state could grant a waiver, but won't.
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I don't but
By Sally
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 3:23pm
My SO does--not on thanksgiving, thank goodness but he'll be at work at the crack of dawn on Friday. Retail, restaurant or hospitality jobs, and obv anyone who works in a hospital, nursing home, police, fire...not everyone gets the day off but I hate the idea of forcing people to work to enable the idiotic Black Friday feeding frenzy.
Meanwhile
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 11:23am
Costco is closed on major holidays, has limited hours on weekends and many holidays ... and seems to be doing just fine.
Makes it tough to make the case that people NEED to shop on Thanksgiving ... if that were true, why so many uber super sales to entice people?
Costco
By Michael Kerpan
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 12:06pm
I would like to support such a (relatively) good employer -- but I don't think we need to buy stuff in bulk quantities (whih seems to be its specialty).
We're in peak bulk buying "season"
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 12:17pm
With two teen boys racing to see who gets to their father's height first, well, yeah we do Costco. They can make an entire wholesale club bag of chips and vat of salsa vanish in no time if friends follow them home from school. Eight eggs for breakfast is not uncommon, either.
Most of the younger one's clothes come from there, too. Can't beat $23 Levis.
But I hear ya ... there will soon come a time when we aren't buying so much there. The point stands, however, that they manage to treat employees quite well, don't open on a lot of holidays, don't stay open late on weekends, welcomed the union as an HR subcontractor of sorts, and still consistently do well in the marketplace.
Target is starting to catch on.
I do like the fact that Costco seems to be....
By Michael Kerpan
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 1:06pm
... more profitable than similar chains that treat both employees and customers worse.
Costco has lots of stuff
By Nonymouse
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 2:06pm
It's not just industrial sized jars of peanut butter anymore. Personally, I enjoy the Costco liquor store - which you don't need a membership to patronize, by the way.
I guess we should...
By Michael Kerpan
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 2:58pm
... check it out someday.
Well if Cosco's closed where
By anon
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 12:23pm
Well if Cosco's closed where else will people go? Imagine if you walked into the kitchen and the dog was licking the Turkey, and now you couldn't go out and buy another one. There is a purpose for everything, including stores open on Thanksgiving, believe it or not.
No.
By Nonymouse
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 2:02pm
If we were talking about grocery stores or pharmacies, you might have a point. But these stores aren't thoughtfully staying open for when you have an emergency - no, they're luring in long lines of people in to buy "deal buster" DVD players and video games. If stores were only open for regular business on Thanksgiving, getting actual volunteers (not "volunteers") to work would probably not be a problem. But the reason it's such a shit show for retail workers is because stores have positioned themselves to incite a mad rush of foaming-at-the-mouth shoppers and need everyone, not just the people who don't celebrate or would like some extra cash, to work on what for most people is a family holiday.
I was once one of those
By anon
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 2:26pm
I was once one of those workers and it wasn't so bad. I got double time and people gave me lots of tips. And I didn't have to see my weird aunt.
Thanksgiving
By anon
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 2:07pm
If I came into the kitchen and the dog was licking the turkey, well then, I guess we're eating mashed potatoes, pumpkin pie, stuffing and cranberry sauce for dinner. It's also a good time to remember that Thanksgiving is about family and being thankful for what you DO have. If you can't have an enjoyable holiday without a turkey, then your problems are much grander than having to find an open store.
I bet my dog would say he had a pretty awesome thanksgiving though.
%$@&! BUMPUSSES!
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 5:42pm
Like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPRdj1Ce4ao
Well, then you'd just have to go out for dinner. Like, maybe Chinese food?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTq20prt0K8
Supermarkets and restaurants are open
By anon
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 6:50pm
but this isn't talking about those businesses..
I actually don't have a problem, in theory, with stores being open on Thanksgiving. Not everyone has a family close by to be with, or a family at all and if they want to spend the day working or shopping, fine by me. But the reality often is that employees don't truly have a choice on whether or not they work the holiday. If not enough people want to come in to work that day, they aren't going to just close.
The war on the worker
By anon
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 12:42pm
Good to see someone getting a day off! How soon will it be before the Herald/Fox/etc. types decry it as an affront to the free market system? I always see serious irony in the way the conservatives ignore issues such as this. They'll go on and on about the "war on Christmas" but never about the war on the American worker, who loses holidays right and left. How about standing up for them? Why no outcry when an American worker has to work on Thanksgiving, The 4th of July, Veterans day, etc?
I'd even say labor day, but then, of course, that's a socialist holiday.
Really, this is political? I
By Patricia
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 2:59pm
Really, this is political? I remember my dad, who worked retail his whole life, being very upset when Massachusetts first allowed stores to open on Sundays. Sunday was a day of family and rest for him and his employees. He was in the minority, obviously. We weren't allowed to shop on Sunday's at my house, or work. We managed just fine. He saw this day coming, and that was over 30 years ago.
I regret that politics seems to creep into everything, even things that really aren't political.
I'd like to add the MA Blue
By Patricia
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 3:35pm
I'd like to add the MA Blue Laws have a religious background to them. I thought those conservatives/fox news/ etc were bible thumpers, no? If the conservatives are the backward religious idiots, doesn't that go against your "theory"?
Good
By anon²
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 10:38pm
Catholic and Protestant values to boot.
Not that new age prosperity Gospel shit they teach down south, that would make Jesus weep.
Boston Herald
By Suldog
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 4:37pm
I can't speak for the other entities, but I know for a fact that the Herald will be presenting my op-ed on the subject of Thanksgiving shopping, probably this weekend, and I can absolutely guarantee you it is pro-worker.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
I should point out that the
By RhoninFire
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 7:49pm
I should point out that the Herald comments seems to be positive citing it is good this is being kept and allowing people to spend time with family. If you know are going to claim you know how the Herald/Fox/insert-embodiment-of-conservative, at least check what they are saying. If you're are following the advice to don't read the Herald comments, this just became an example of making assumptions of your own personal view of subsets of people.
Actually, there's an interesting observation in that. If you had look at Conservative sources and Liberal sources both are large decrying how retail are encroaching Thanksgiving. Both are saying things that basically being said here. But I do notice an irony, while it is not seen in currently 15 comments of the Herald. I do recall in other articles on other sites, both sides doesn't seem to be aware the other side of the political spectrum are in agreement. Kinda this comment I am responding believing Conservative commentators of the Herald are decrying this as a violation of Free Markets while they are actually writing things like (with +8 thumbs up) "Well, in my humble opinion it's about time we step back and relax for two days..."
Yaaay!
By Iresd
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 4:19pm
I am very happy to hear this.
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