By adamg on Sun., 2/16/2025 - 10:18 am
A group of professors and students affiliated with Harvard Medical School write that it's all well and good for a consortium that includes Harvard and MIT to develop wind and solar farms in Texas and North Dakota, but what about the carbon-belching MATEP plant right in the middle of all those Harvard-affiliated hospitals and research centers in the Longwood Medical Area?
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By Frelmont
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 12:55pm
https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/nrc-certifies-first-us-small-modular-...
No
By SwirlyGrrl
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 7:02pm
Just. No. Way too dense an area for this. The MIT reactor is bad enough.
"Emissions free" is a complete joke. The fuel is enriched at an exempted coal-fired plant.
Also, waste is emissions. They still haven't found a permanent place to put what was in the triple-bunked fuel pool at Pilgrim. At least they dry casked it after Fukushima - after 20 years of refusing to do so even after 9/11 made it clear how stupid it was to have enough radioactive material to render the region uninhabitable dependent on water circulation.Â
You want natural clean energy
By anon
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 1:25pm
You want natural clean energy and oxygen and protection from skin cancer? Stop cutting down trees and increase green space. Clean up litter. Stop poisoning ponds and other city water. Stop whining about the almighty dollar and just get out there and be a revolutionary maverick. Is there a list of groups to join in neighborhoods to do volunteer cleanup on weekends?
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By SwirlyGrrl
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 6:56pm
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There's an Italian man
By Plen-T-Pak
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 9:32pm
Crying next to the highway. Join him.
I remember when MATEP was being built
By Tommy Joad
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 1:38pm
I remember when MATEP was being built – was a Mass Art student at the time (in the old Longwood building). I saw firsthand the block-busting Harvard did as they hoovered up all the real estate under 3rd party companies acting as "beards" – the same as Harvard has done in Allston.
I also recall when MATEP couldn't pass the emissions test for the power plant. You know what they did? They made the smokestack taller so the emissions would drift over into Brookline (Brookline wasn't too happy about it).
There was a documentary about how Harvard deceived and ravaged Mission Hill – I don't recall the name of it right now.
Left out harm to workers and students in the LMA
By mg
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 2:12pm
This article rightly discusses harm to patients and people living in local communities, but completely fails to mention all the people who work or study in the LMA. Patients are usually there for short periods, but the people who keep the hospitals running (nurses, aides, custodial staff, cafeteria workers...) are there all the time. And in addition to the Harvard medical, dental, and public health schools, that area has Mass Art, Wentworth, Mass College of Pharmacy, Northeastern, Simmons, Boston Latin, and their associated staff.
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By John Costello
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 2:18pm
So Emmanuel College does not count in your world? It's closer to the stacks than Mass Art. Â
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Yes, Emmanuel counts
By mg
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 3:41pm
Emmanuel College counts - I inadvertently left it off the long list because it's the only one I didn't routinely pass or have other contact with when I worked in the area so I forgot about it. I didn't pull out a map to make the list, and there are a ton of schools in that area.Â
No need to go out of your way to get offended.
Right?
By ElizaLeila
Tue, 02/18/2025 - 10:59am
You didn't list The Windsor School. How very dare. /s
a great example
By 02132
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 3:55pm
What a great example of pedantic assholery.Â
Emmanuel
By John Costello
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 6:54pm
Part of LMA.
Northeastern is not. Â
Someone close to me goes there. Â
Not pedantic at all.
I hope you slip on ice tomorrow. Â
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Really?
By SwirlyGrrl
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 7:06pm
Really?
What else are you preemptively mad about so we can be sure to name check you in every post and spare you the indignity of wishing ill on people for no reason?
Try anger management. It helps.
It doesn't only affect LMA
By mg
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 8:58pm
The article makes clear that it doesn't just affect the LMA but also affects neighborhoods nearby. I'm sure I also left out other K-12 schools in that area. I wasn't trying to make an exhaustive list - just showing that there are many students in that area. Just like my list of hospital workers doesn't include every job category at hospitals, which I expect leaves out people who are important to some other UHub denizens.Â
You used to be someone who
By Bob Leponge
Mon, 02/17/2025 - 1:53pm
You used to be someone who brought a generally well researched and interestingly contrarian perspective to many discussions here.Â
On the belief that everyone I meet is fighting at least one struggle that is invisible to me and that is ultimately none of my damn business, I wish you comfort and respite from whatever it is that has led you to where you are now. I am 100% serious, no snark intended at all.Â
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Not nice JackieÂ
By HPboy
Mon, 02/17/2025 - 1:58pm
Not nice JackieÂ
A spelling correction - and sick buildings abound
By Daan
Sun, 02/16/2025 - 4:54pm
There is a sentence that contains the words write in the middle. Should of course be right since the plant does not write in the middle of the complex.
Sick buildings abound in Boston. For the most part none have not reached a severity that remediation is required. But there is one in particular in the Seaport District that causes people to cough when they spend enough time in it. While an inhaler stops the coughing when it happens, the cause is neverthless the air in the building.
I guess now is a bad time...
By Don't Panic
Mon, 02/17/2025 - 1:08am
To admit I had a hand in building the thing. I personally counted all the rebar stacks going into the basement level concrete of the MATEP before I decided to join the U.S.A.F. They told me it was going to be nuclear powered back in the 70s.
Could someonce please explain to the regulars here
By anon
Mon, 02/17/2025 - 1:10pm
..How much area a lot would need to be to replace a power plant output with solar n wind? Don't forget to point out its in the middles of a large city, where they def don't have that space. Thanks.
How about this concept
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 02/19/2025 - 7:28am
A roof.
Wind turbines come in a lot of different forms - they don't have to be towers. Look around and you'll see them on roof tops.
Solar panels are on a lot of roofs now, too. They can also be built into facades and siding and retrofit on building sides, too.
Solar, wind, tidal power can be generated elsewhere and magically transported to large batteries using wires.Â
Perhaps someone should explain these concepts to you.
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