By adamg on Wed., 11/6/2013 - 8:56 am
WBUR has posted precinct-by-precinct results on a map. The first thing that stands out is how overwhelmingly Walsh took Hyde Park - it proved his margin of victory.
But also interesting is how Washington Street - the one that runs through Roxbury, JP, Roslindale and West Roxbury - served as a boundary line between Walshville and Connolly Town. East of Washington Street, Walsh won big. West of Washington, it was mostly Connolly.
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One City!
By aldos
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 9:08am
One City!
Oh you poor naive fool.
By TheVanJones
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 9:11am
Oh you poor naive fool.
Well
By anon
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 9:37am
It looks like the lower income half of Boston won, i figured a progressive, ultra-liberal site like UH would be happy with the results.
We're delirious with joy
By adamg
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 9:55am
Next step: Deporting people like you.
Thats
By anon²
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:31am
What the FEMA camps are for, remember?
People like me
By anon
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:40am
What the blue-collar Old Boston folk. We'll just continue to not welcome you into the neighborhood. Get over it Marty Walsh won, Boston has spoken.
Dapper, is that you?
By anon
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:55am
I didn't know there was internet access down there.
Hey, if he's right....
By moxie
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:51am
Then you're going to have to explain who Dapper was to him.
Ward 11, South Street
By JPer
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 9:12am
Interesting on this map that Ward 11, south street area south of the monument in JP, is called Roxbury. Weird because my address is in Jamaica Plain.
WBUR is part of the Boston media
By adamg
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 9:56am
Which means they are even worse than me at figuring out neighborhood lines. There are also some issues with what they consider "Roslindale," I guess.
Roslindale
By ckollett
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:26am
They don't consider any precinct to be Roslindale, really. It looks like the labels are based on the ward only. The Roslindale precincts in ward 20 are all labeled "West Roxbury/Roslindale", those in ward 19 are labeled "Jamaica Plain", and those in ward 18 are labeled "Hyde Park". Just goes to show how much Roslindale gets carved up whenever political boundaries are drawn.
Secession
By anon
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:30am
We should secede until we are allotted our proper representation.
It's funny because Roslindale seems like the average of all the city demographics- very ethnically and economically diverse. No wonder the tribal aspects of our political system aren't interested in fully claiming it for a district. To me, the fact that Washington St. is the border between the Lynch and Capuano districts is particularly absurd.
Careful what you wish for
By Stevil
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:10am
If Rozzie - or any neighborhood outside of downtown ever thought of seceding you'd be broke inside of a few months. Keep in mind that downtown generates probably 60-70% of the city's revenue and almost 100% of any new revenue from development- and given that there are so few kids, puts almost no burden on city services.
Without downtown (commercial and residential), no neighborhood in Boston would exist in anything remotely resembling its current form - it would have to quickly become Brookline or another Springfield on life support from Beacon Hill.
Please see my other comment
By Forrest Marvez
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:52am
Please see my other comment regarding why this happened.
Issues with Neighborhood boundries
By Forrest Marvez
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:51am
Just want to comment as the developer of this map. I went off of the official Boston Election office map for precincts, wards with an overlay for neighborhoods. It wasn't an exacting system and I did my best to place precincts in the neighborhoods they belong. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find a hard and fast list guiding me of each precincts exact neighborhood affiliation. If someone could point me to one (I exhaustively searched and asked around without success) , I'd be happy to update the information in the map.
Here is the map I used, as you can see, it isn't very clear: http://www.cityofboston.gov/maps/pdfs/ward_and_pre...
Welcome to Boston
By adamg
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:20pm
Where nothing beats a good argument about neighborhood lines.
Isn't that the old "Boston Neck?"
By Amanda
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 9:20am
From a purely historical perception, isn't that line an old dividing line in the city?
I read this one of two ways
By Stevil
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 9:27am
It's either haves v. have nots or old Boston v. new Boston - either way it's not good.
more like the makers vs the
By anon
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 9:58am
more like the makers vs the takers or the non-union vs. union neighborhoods
Go back to San Diego, Mitt.
By Scratchie
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:39am
Go back to San Diego, Mitt.
Enjoy living in the rubble
By anon
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:55am
Enjoy living in the rubble when you've destroyed the city. Voting yourself other people's stuff results in them taking their ball and moving elsewhere. That leads to a economic death spiral.
Is your house for sale, then?
By adamg
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:18pm
When's the open house?
I can't afford a home, let
By anon
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 1:43pm
I can't afford a home, let alone a house in Boston. But you should be worried as a homeowner about who is going to pay for the drastic increase in the cost in services when a large chunk of the wealthy tax base decides to leave. Cities across the country have made the same mistake since the turn of the last century to great detriment. Money is very mobile and if you turn cities back into political and redistribution machines all the people which had been moving back from the burbs will change their minds. You can vote yourself rich peoples' and businesses money at the ballot box all you want. They will in turn vote with their feet.
I can't afford a home, let
By Scratchie
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 2:16pm
Sounds like you're a worthless, lazy slacker, then. Why don't you get off your ass and get a real job? Signed, Mr. Republican.
"Signed, Mr. Republican."
By Patricia
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 2:30pm
"Signed, Mr. Republican."
Ughhh,
downvote.
This constant drumbeat of "republicans kick little babies and puppies" are for the low informed.
I've never heard any republican chide someone for not being able to afford a home that is in a very high priced market.
But go ahead, play your games.
Ps, I'm independent, vote both parties but see how much of the rhetoric is getting crazy - your post included :)
then you aren't paying attention
By no one in particular
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 2:50pm
Directly in your space? Likely not, because that's electoral suicide in MA.
But the Republicans nationally are really doubling down on the hating these days, and if you haven't noticed that you need to get new glasses and hearing aids.
This constant drumbeat of
By Scratchie
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 4:04pm
The cornfield called. It wants its straw man back.
Nobody says "Republicans kick little babies and puppies". That's a far cry from "Republicans claim that poor people have nobody but themselves to blame", which has been a standard GOP talking point for the last 30 years at least.
Big money isn't going anywhere.....
By Pete Nice
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 6:04pm
Because their kids don't go to BPS anyway.
Mayor Curley said that and
By anon
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 6:55pm
Mayor Curley said that and look what happened to the city then. All the monied people fled for Brookline, Newton, and the W's. Businesses relocated to New York and Connecticut. In the span of 20 years the city went from the shinning city on the hill to a disinvested backwater. Can't say Kevin White's magic fiefdom was much better. If it weren't for Flynn and Menino this city would be Baltimore North.
Not really....
By Pete Nice
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 8:13pm
Hasn't boston become cme from your average American factory city to basically one of the top 3 most expensive places to live behind SF and NY?
What the hell would Walsh do to effect any of that Nyway?
No not really
By anon
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:01am
Jamaica "Skinny Jeans" Plain is majority "New Boston", while West Roxbury is "Old Boston". Both vote overwhelmingly for Connolly!
You don't know much about JP
By Whit
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:50am
You don't know much about JP do you? Can't really read a map very well? I think it shows an interesting dividing line WITHIN JP.
Actually
By eiffel designs
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:05pm
JP is split between fancy pants pond siders and the rest of us. Pond siders went with Connolly. The rest of JP went with Walsh.
It's super productive
By TheVanJones
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:27pm
It's super productive comments like this that really add to the conversations of UHub.
Your labels are confusing
By ABBQ
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 1:24pm
If you look at Ward 10 Precinct 9, you'll find that only 2 votes differentiated Connolly from Walsh. I would define that as 'almost a toss up'. I suggest you look closer at the vote counts in each ward/precinct and you''ll see things are much closer than 'haves v have nots'.
HA!
By Grouper
Thu, 11/07/2013 - 12:53am
I love it when people say stuff like this! Too funny. No, actually you're all rich or upper middle-class. No matter where you live in Jamaica Plain. JP is an EXPENSIVE PLACE TO LIVE! That is, unless, you have lived in JP for 30 some-odd years, or reside in the projects. The "pond siders and the rest of us"? Haahahhhahahahhahhaaa!!!!!! You mean the assholes who got a Master's in finance vs. the assholes who got a Master's in underwater basket weaving?
Please.
Remind us--which kind of asshole are you?
By Sally
Thu, 11/07/2013 - 9:51am
You definitely are one--I'm just not sure which socio-economic or cultural stereotype you fit into.
I'm the underwater basket-weaving variety myself.
I'd say it's more new vs old
By TheVanJones
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:03am
I'd say it's more new vs old boston, the have vs have nots was just clever marketing.
Amazing what a few million dollars worth of clever marketing...
By Sally
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:12am
will get you. I got Marty Walsh pencils and a Marty Walsh potholder in the mail, along with a couple of pretty nasty mailers, all courtesy of outside groups. I don't watch much TV but I'm guessing the $500k in ad buys helped too.
The Globe map is more useful
By Ron Newman
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 9:35am
[url=http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/11/05/mayora... map[/url] uses shading to show gradation of victory in each precinct.
Turnout
By anon
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:27am
For all the talk of Walsh as a uniting candidate, turnout was still poor in large sections of Roxbury, Mattapan, Dorchester, basically the communities of color (or whatever terminology you prefer.) I wonder if that's just because of lower political engagement overall or if at the end of the day even Walsh with his support from CGR and Barros was still not that compelling. How did turnout in those areas compare to the presidential elections in 2004 or 2008?
Can you reasonably compare
By Sally
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:43am
Turnout in a local election with turnout in a presidential one?
Especially when there are no black canditates?
By Pete Nice
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:49am
I know both Walsh and Connolly. Both are solid guys and I really don't think there is much difference between either of them.
The only difference I think between the two is that Connolly would have kept more of the status quo, while Walsh will change some things in terms of promoting people to higher positions.
Interesting
By anon
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:55am
I thought Connolly would be more likely to change things, like the BPS for starters.
Was it ever confirmed by Walsh that he would in fact appoint a black woman police chief as stated by Golar-Richie? That's the only thing I remember which seemed like clear promise.
I don't think much is going to change.
By Pete Nice
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:10am
I think Connolly would have been more like Menino though, where people would be appointed to positions based on merit and politics, where Walsh might go with merit and race/gender. Both approaches aren't always the right way to go, but Walsh might mix some things up more than Connolly would in my opinion.
The schools are too big too change, and nothing major will happen there.
Why not?
By anon
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 10:53am
I'd think a mayoral election after 20 years of an all powerful mayor would be a huge impetus to vote, more so than a Presidential election where a modern day Tea Party vetted Republican has no shot of winning this state.
Feel free to correct me
By Sally
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 11:57am
I just don't think local elections ever get the same kind of turnout as national ones, unless there's something hugely important on the agenda. And obviously the last two Obama elections got enormous and unusual turnout from both minority communities and younger voters. IMO none of the primary candidates of color were truly galvanizing--no Mel Kings here--so I'm not surprised at the lackluster showing.
I think the turnout...
By Michael Kerpan
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:02pm
... when Menino first ran for mayor, 20 years ago, was in the 55 to 60 percent range (at least). Thirty-eight percent is a LOT worse than this.
1993 turnout
By Sally
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:11pm
112k in the primary, 118k in the general.
Do you know the percentage?
By Michael Kerpan
Wed, 11/06/2013 - 12:40pm
I _think_ Boston has more registered voters now. (at least I read that somewhere).
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