UPDATE: Guy actually supports the thing.
The Board of Appeal yesterday approved a medical-marijuana dispensary at 331A-333 Newbury St., after the proposed operator agreed to not seek permission to sell recreational pot, to obtain at least 10 spaces in a nearby garage for customers and to pay for police details to go after pot smokers on the Commonwealth Avenue mall.
But Compassionate Organics' Geoffrey Reilinger could face a legal fight. Residents opposed to the measure have hired attorney and former City Councilor Lawrence DiCara to fight the proposal, which they and DiCara said would expose too many children to the idea of marijuana consumption.
At the hearing, DiCara also raised the specter of a Newbury Street gridlocked by double-parking customers - who he said would light up in the alley between Newbury and Comm. Ave. - and by fleets of armored cars delivering marijuana to the facility and driving away the cash he said patients would have to use because federally insured banks are not allowed to process credit-card transactions for marijuana dispensaries.
And then there was Oliver Curme, a retired venture capitalist who lives on Commonwealth Avenue (and not represented by DiCara), who opposed the proposed dispensary because of the icky people he said would patronize it:
It'll bring undesirable elements into the neighborhood, and just so you know what I mean, there are Army vets with PTSD and we don't want them in the neighborhood, you know, just give me a break, they can get over it.
And the second thing, is people with wheelchairs, with MS, or whatever [here board members told him to limit himself to zoning issues]. Third one is women with breast cancer. They all have that cadaverous look and they wear those ridiculous turbans, and for goodness sake, [here board members tried and failed to get him to sit down] Newbury Street is our high-end shopping district, we don't want people like that scaring off the clientele.
The city's first medical dispensary opened on Milk Street downtown in August, 2016, a year after the zoning board approved it.
At the hearing yesterday, a representative of one Back Bay doctor supported the proposal, saying it could help in the fight against opioids by giving people a way to come off opioid addiction. Margaret Huff-Rousselle, a health-policy professor who lives on Commonwealth Avenue, said she has a Harvard colleague who is still forced to turn to the black market for medical marijuana because there are too few places to buy it legally.
Ann Hochberg, attorney for the family that has owned the Newbury Street building since 1962, said the use is a good one for "the funkier end of Newbury Street," which she said is already facing empty storefronts because of competition from online retailers. Local unions representing carpenters and electricians also supported the proposal because Reilinger has agreed to hire union workers to build out the facility.
The Neighborhood Association of the Back Bay opposed the proposal. Chairman Martyn Roetter said the civic group is not opposed to the idea of a medical marijuana dispensary in the neighborhood, but said it shouldn't be on a street where people live and children congregate. Dispensaries should be in locations where children only "rarely and fleetingly in passing by" might become aware of marijuana. In contrast, the Newbury Street location means "many children" will be "permanently and inevitably exposed to its impact."
Nearby residents with children agreed. Susan Baker, who lives on Beacon Street, said her son walks by the proposed location twice a day on his way to and from school and said "hundreds of other kids will be exposed on a daily basis." She added, "We just don't want Newbury Street, because it directly abuts the residential neighborhood, to be a destination for people to come and procure marijuana."
Ross, whose council district included the Back Bay, however, retorted that's not a legal reason to block the dispensary, because state laws related to dispensaries and proximity to children are related to such things as schools, not streets on which children might walk.
He said the 300 to 325 customers a day Reilinger expects would be only a small fraction of the type of traffic a Starbucks or similar retail outlet would see on Newbury Street, and said Reilinger has an agreement with the nearby Somerset Garage to let his customers park there during their visits - and that he would pick up the tab.
But that assertion brought an angry retort from Dr. Patricia Brown, who lives on Hereford Street and who has been on the garage board of trustees for 18 years - she said she has never heard of such an agreement and said she doubted it was even possible given how little space there is there.
Ross said he had talked to somebody named Youssef at the garage, and said Reilinger did not want to commit to a formal contract before he won final permission to build. The zoning board said it didn't care where Reilinger had his patrons park, but said they would not sign off on their approval until after he shows a signed contract with some garage operator in the area for use of at least 10 spaces.
Josh Zakim, who took over Ross's seat when Ross ran for mayor four years ago, opposed the location. Kate Ball, one of his aides, said that, like NABB, Zakim believes a dispensary in the Back Bay could work in a less visible location, rather than on "arguably Boston's premier retail street."
Mayor Marty Walsh took a stand of neither opposition nor support.
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Does every liquor store and CVS
By GoSoxGo
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 12:49pm
have to go through this as well in Back Bay?
As a matter of fact ...
By adamg
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 1:00pm
Yes, they do. But rich guys don't usually stand up at hearings and make horrible comments about veterans and other people with medical conditions.
How Many Are Paying For Police Details?
By Elmer
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 1:57pm
Maybe I've missed it, but I've never heard of a drug pharmacy or liquor store paying for police details at a location other than their place of business, for the purpose of arresting people who probably never patronized the establishment.
Convenience stores and coffee purveyors create a significant public nuisance when their customers fail to properly dispose of packaging and other trash. Are any of them paying for police details to issue citations to people who litter?
Oliver Crume sounds like a real POS
By TiminCharlestown
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 12:59pm
And then there was Oliver Curme, a retired venture capitalist who lives on Commonwealth Avenue, who opposed the proposed dispensary because of the icky people he said would patronize it:
[I]It'll bring undesirable elements into the neighborhood, and just so you know what I mean, there are Army vets with PTSD and we don't want them in the neighborhood, you know, just give me a break, they can get over it.
And the second thing, is people with wheelchairs, with MS [here he waved his hands in the air], or whatever [here board members told him to limit himself to zoning issues]. Third one is women with breast cancer. They all have that cadaverous look and they wear those ridiculous turbans, and for goodness sake, [here board members tried and failed to get him to sit down] Newbury Street is our high-end shopping district, we don't want people like that scaring off the clientele.[/I]
46:24 in the video
By WhatTheBins
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 1:11pm
If your jaw dropped reading those lines and couldn't believe it was real, you have to see the video. He starts at 46:24.
Bonus point: He tried to jump the line at 44:57.
Yeah,
By whyaduck
Thu, 11/16/2017 - 3:35pm
the fact that he had no shame to even say those words and then to be recorded, just leaves me speechless.
There have always been people like Mr. Curme and there always will be but when you see it in action - cripes. And I love how he gave the air quotes to "MS" . What, does he believe that it does not exist and those that have it, are somehow faking it? What a scum of a human being.
What?!
By Roslindaler
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 2:17pm
Is this possibly for real? Was he doing some kind of performance art? Maybe it was a satire gone wrong? Perhaps he lost a bet, or was playing truth or dare with someone at the Somerset Club and took "dare." If not, for future note, you can't say those kind of things as part of a proper satire without wearing a monocle.
I had a jaw-dropping moment
By anon
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 3:40pm
I was watching Crume speak, and afterwards realized that my mouth was just frozen open.
I know there are people who think like that, and that kind of thinking explains a lot of the decisions in this city, but most people at least have the sense not to talk like that in public.
Can someone get that video clip on the Reddit front page?
incredible
By SC from JP
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 1:54pm
At first I thought this had to be a prank but a quick Google search does seem to indicate he's real.
Get fucked, Oliver Curme, retired venture capitalist who lives on Commonwealth Avenue.
lives in a mansion
By Margine
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 1:47pm
He doesn't just live on Commonwealth, he lives in a mansion on Commonwealth per the video.
I'm a non-violent person
By Ari O
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 5:17pm
But I'll go buy a baseball bat to bash this fucker's head in.
Ah, Mr. Curme,
By whyaduck
Thu, 11/16/2017 - 3:35pm
your afterlife will consist of you in a very small locked room with all those people whom you disparage plus a handful of folks smoking the weed.
Funny, in my world, Mr. Curme is the undesirable element.
(You, Mr. Curme, aside from you having a zero sense of empathy, many many people who are in pain and suffering use marijuana, medically, to alleviate their pain. One such person comes to my mind. A woman who I had the pleasure of knowing who died at 35 due to advanced colon cancer and left a husband and two small children at the time. She was a lovely, caring, church going individual, who suffered. So go fuck yourself.)
If the world is just
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 1:52pm
If the world is just, he will die of fungating tumors, alone, without analgesia.
Wealth only goes so far when it comes to insulating you from the reality of frailty and death.
WTF
By capecoddah
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 2:11pm
Perhaps your twisted karmic utopia is already here and some other bloviating pixie wished pain and suffering on those poor souls that the venture capitalist provided some of. This would make him a good guy in your desired vision of cosmic justice.
Your constant prayer for the horrible misfortune of others surely does not include a complete background check, does it? I mean, what if the turban lady voted for President Trump?
In short, it is just not cool to hope for deadly tumors on people.
Says the guy ...
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 2:13pm
Who has repeatedly gone on record here to support policies that kill women and kill members of the underclasses.
Afraid of Karma, are ya?
policies that kill women and kill members of the underclasses
By capecoddah
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 2:42pm
I do not support abortion.
Go Condemn Rick Santorum
By anon
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 3:58pm
His wife was saved by one.
lol
By Patricia-can't ...
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 4:07pm
lol
Ah, okay
By anon
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 4:27pm
So you will adopt all the motherless kids in El Salvador whose mother's died from tubular pregnancies and ecclampsia?
Good.
I wonder when he is on his death bed...
By whyaduck
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 6:36pm
if he gets to be that lucky, will he have a "come to Jesus moment"? Nah.
Holy shitballs
By M
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 1:55pm
My jaw dropped reading that. I cannot believe there's video of it. Good grief.
Satire?
By anon
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 2:47pm
These statements are so wacky and improbable as to suggest that they're not being offered seriously. Come on -- a guy who says he lives in a mansion telling people with PTSD to "get over it," complaining about wheelchairs in the Back Bay, and calling breast cancer patients "cadaverous" and "ridiculous," this is all literally how a Weekly Dig cartoonist would portray the 1% as devoid of any basic human kindness.
I'm seriously wondering if he and his money are actually on the dispensary's side in all this.
Psst..
By whyaduck
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 5:49pm
There are a lot of wacky people out there that say wacky things. There are also a lot of mean people out there, like this man, who say mean things. This is not improbable.
Quick google search reveals
By Eric
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 4:18pm
Quick google search reveals he is a real person and definitely does not need the money.
OLIVER CURME
By MarcMike
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 10:01pm
Spell his name correctly -- OLIVER CURME -- so that any time people google him this horrendous video of his bigotry and hatred will pop up first.
Absolutely unreal
By BruceKillary
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 1:29pm
What kind of a horrific human is Oliver Curme? Giving people with PTSD a hard time is bad enough - but MS and breast cancer?!?!?! He's acting like any of those things is something they could control.
This is absolutely disgusting.
Blowing Smoke
By Adeas
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 1:33pm
Oh give me a break. I work right around the corner from the dispensary on Milk Street and if I didn't read U-Hub, I wouldn't even know it was there. Minimal signange, no "undesirables" lighting up in the ally next to it, etc.
This is all just scare tactics from people who grew up watching too much Reefer Madness.
And can we get over the "but the children!" piece - unless you live in a dry house and never drink in front of your kids, the amount of exposure they'll get by walking past this probably pales in comparison to the amount of watching Mommy, Daddy and Friends enjoy some "juice juice" whenever they host company.
But what about Kevin?????
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 1:50pm
[img=250x150]https://thumbs.mic.com/MjAyMzViNGJiOSMvN3J2eGNNUFp...
Or for that matter at any of
By anon
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 3:46pm
Or for that matter at any of the Patio Bars along the same street.
Come on, people
By Will LaTulippe
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 1:40pm
Almost an hour? Really?
Oliver Curme-udgeon
Thumbs up for this post!
By anon
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 3:17pm
Thumbs up for this post! Well done Will!
Please don't light up near
By anon
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 2:17pm
Please don't light up near kids playing in the parks, thanks.
This is such a bummer. You
By anon
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 2:24pm
This is such a bummer. You already can't walk anywhere in Boston during the summer without the stench of weed hanging in the air.
That's not the only bummer
By adamg
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 2:42pm
It's a bummer you don't realize that medical marijuana doesn't just come in smokable form.
yup
By cybah
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 3:44pm
My fav MMJ product right now terpine vape pens. So cool, and not smelly!!! It saved my living situation!
Hey,
By whyaduck
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 6:35pm
some of us I like the smell of weed. Rather that than cigs.
And, come on, you can't walk anywhere? Really? Well, have you tried Newbury Street?
It has gotten so bad
By mrotown
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 7:34pm
I've never smoked weed, but I supported legalization. The horrible stench of it is everywhere now. I'd love to see it back illegal again just so I don't have to smell it.
Oliver Crume is a terribler
By Kinopio
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 2:30pm
Oliver Curme is a terrible person. He speaks of "undesirables" but old rich men like him are the ones ruining this country.
And why does a business a block from a T stop need to have 10 parking spaces? Customers who don't drive will pay more to subsidize the lazy drivers. Drivers in Boston should be embarrassed by getting all these handouts paid for by non drivers.
Because maybe some people are
By anon
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 3:54pm
Because maybe some people are unable to take the T to the dispensary for health reasons?
You sound a lot like Oliver Crume yourself there kornholio.
Denver
By anon
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 3:55pm
In Denver, two of the most popular urban dispensaries downtown are along the pedestrian/transit only corridor.
Perhaps they should put in 5 handicapped spots directly in front?
Will You Please Stop?
By anon
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 4:34pm
You're obviously young, because whatever else this guy Curme might be, he doesn't appear in the video to be much older than 50. You're obviously fully mobile, because everything you post is about bicycles. You're obviously wealthy, because you make a point of living in JP but you're also freaked out by "sketchy" corners downtown. And you obviously have no responsibility to dependents significantly older or younger than yourself, because you appear blissfully unaware that one might need to transport them and their mobility aids somewhere further than a block away.
And that's all great. It sounds like a wonderful life. You should feel very lucky.
My mother, on the other hand, lost her husband to suicide, raised a child almost entirely by herself while working full-time, and then acted as the sole caretaker to her own mother during late-life disease and dementia. She is the strongest, kindest, most motivated person I have ever known. She also can't afford to live in Boston, so when she has to go into town she drives and I hope she finds a parking place near wherever she's going.
You, from your position of immense privilege, are describing this woman as "lazy" and saying she "should be embarrassed by getting all these handouts." This is so far from the truth as to be hilarious, except it's exactly the same repugnant language frequently used to shame the poor. That says a lot about where you draw your inspiration, and how you view people with incomes lower than yours. What I really hope you consider, though, is that some of the people you whine about so petulantly have more pride on their worst days than you and 100 clones of yourself do on your best.
I think Mr. Curme is 63
By whyaduck
Thu, 11/16/2017 - 3:36pm
but does not look a day over being a asshole.
omg dude really?
By anon
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 4:37pm
I was so on the same page, almost amazed we could agree something, even if it's someone nearly unquestionably being a scumbag. Then you somehow made this another anti-car rant, something only you could do.
Sigh.
By whyaduck
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 5:39pm
Um, cause the T sucks, in general?
And not all drivers are lazy., BTW. Some of us take the T and commuter rail because it is cheaper that what our employer would charge us for parking per month.
A comedy villain
By SamWack
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 2:42pm
If I tuned into a TV show and some character named Oliver Crume was speaking those lines, I would assume it was a comedy, because it's too over-the-top awful for anything that aspires to be realistic. It's like he's playing the Terrible Person in a kid's movie.
The Burrage Mansion
By Irma la Douce
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 2:47pm
I wonder how many of Oliver's co-residents of the Burrage Mansion hold his views? Also, when he mentions MS he does a spastic move, apparently making fun of MS patients. I feel like I've seen some other white a-hole do that at a public podium, but for the life of me I can't think of who....
Maybe his upstairs neighbor
By anon
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 5:03pm
Maybe his upstairs neighbor Ansbert can talk some sense into him.
Occam's razor....
By Bob Leponge
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 3:09pm
The entire "Oliver Curme" act has got to be a false-flag operation designed to discredit the opponents of the dispensary. I can't come up with any other explanation that is even remotely plausible.
Bob,
By whyaduck
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 3:56pm
so you think this guy is a plant? Really? Perhaps his economic class hits to close to home for folks who live on The Hill but, I can assure, you there are plenty of folks like Mr. Curme who are just nasty people (His name is not false. In fact, he apparently also sits on a variety of boards).
I know he's a real guy
By Bob Leponge
Wed, 11/15/2017 - 6:24pm
I know that Oliver Crume is a real guy; I just honestly flabbergasted that anyone could seriously stand up in a public meeting and say what he said.... but then again, I wasn't expecting the American public to elect that other guy who mocked the disabled, so maybe I'm just out of touch with reality.
I can't imagine that his economic class finds a lot of resonance with the folks on the hill who who live in Section 8 housing, or elderly housing, or HIV+ housing, (all of which, by the way, neighbors fought for, contributed to, and raised money for) but maybe some of them were wealthy in a previous life.
By the way, when developers do a big project, they are sometimes required to build a certain number of subsidized units. Often they fulfill the requirement by building the "poor folks' units" somewhere elsewhere in the city. Last developer who came before our neighborhood representatives with a big development was told, clearly, "We want the subsidized units to be right here in our neighborhood, ideally in the building itself, not somewhere across the city." The developer was a little surprised. We ain't NIMBY that way.
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